Myxomatosis

just a question of who had suspension problems after dropping their car. bushings...control arms...etc. I know why it happens just wondering what the rate of incidences are.

GhettoNinja06

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Why isn't Whiskers' wife an option?

a2ndragoon89

i actually had problems INSTALLING them. my mechanic told me my rear lower control arms were super fucked up, so he replaced it all for me. Did it for pretty cheap too cuz it's a family friend, but other body shops would well charge hundreds on top of hundreds for me.

other than that, my ride is great, lowered on tein basics. i want to upgrade some day, but for now they are perfect. if you're too low in the front, i get a lot of tire rub. i didn't like that so i just rose it for better handling.

DoubleSh0t

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They were a bitch to install (had to cut/torch my bushings out) but so far I've had 0 issues.

97BlackAckCL

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Replaced ALL my bushings with a polyurethayne master kit, no issues

YtseJammer

Haven't really had any suspension problems, but I have had problems because I'm lowered. Getting on/off trailers for example.

I do have to replace my bushings because the cl's super squeaky and I have a busted bushing on my control arm, but I would have to replace those eventually regardless of whether or not I had coilovers.

Myxomatosis

I asked because, I've lowered a car in the past and had no problems. It was a pita to install on this car, had to replace the rear lower strut mounts.

My big issue is noise that, if anything it's embarrassing. Hard to describe...like rubber squeaking, mostly when I go from the street up a curtain to the parking lot. So my entrance to any store, I've got to creep in, or else my car sounds like a pos.

I'm contemplating bringing the car to Honda, since there's a 2nd gen CL owner there, that has been cool in the past.. too bad he doesn't come on here, his car is pretty sweet. I've brought the car to two mechanics and they couldn't find it, which I think is complete bs, since the noise is so loud. I didn't have enough money, but I got my tax refund!

YtseJammer

Mine does that too because the bushings are shot and need replaced.

Myxomatosis

70% voted whiskers?

97BlackAckCL

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so it's a squeaking? It would most likely be bushings or balljoint

DoubleSh0t

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That's why putting Whiskers in a poll is a bad idea.

Myxomatosis

well, I'm taking it in to Honda tomorrow, to check the squeaks. It's a squeak, but a rubbery sounding squeak. In my head, it sounds like rubber being put under pressure and it moving just enough to make this nasty noise. The guy at Honda(the 2nd gen CL-s owner) says he suspects upper ball joint or a bushing, but really wont be able to tell till they take it in. So hopefully I'll know pretty soon

Myxomatosis

back from honda, they dont know what it is either, but the car is safe to drive.. So it looks like I'll be changing all the bushings out this spring.

Gnate

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especially in any place other than ramblings.

I am hopings to get some money from my dad soon... enough for k sports, energy suspension polyurethane bushings and sway bars

f22vtec

i have that same problem with my car squeaking too

Gnate

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yeah my stock suspension squeaks like crazy right now, idk why.

97BlackAckCL

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bushings bushings bushings

I've been preaching it for years, all these n00bs obviously haven't been around long enough

AznX TL

one thing i dont miss...........squeaking over every little bump.

Myxomatosis

I know my squeaking is bushing or balljoint related, however Honda didn't even want to try to fix it/find it. They the only way to fix it is to put the stock springs back on, sooo....guess I'll be installing the bushings myself since this is the second time honda said something could'nt be done that could have. They did say the car is safe though, so I have some time to figure everything out.

YtseJammer

Get a set of these



So you don't end up with this...

Myxomatosis

^^ewww, I didn't see your reply till now, I dont want that happening. how much did that set of bushings set ya back?

97BlackAckCL

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The master kit is around $100 on ebay, that's the kit I tell everyone to get, it's what I have installed

Blazin Si

Good thread. I just recently lowered my car and had huge problems with the rear lower strut bolts. Both left and right struts had a seized bolt. It took a grinder and air hammer to get them out. One of them actually rusted to the inside of the bushing. That meant taking the trailing arm off and over to a friends shop to use their press. I didn't plan on replacing the struts, but I had to grind the nut off each one. Instead of replacing the nuts, I just bought some new KYB's.

If I would have searched and knew this problem was so common, I would have gladly taken it to a mechanic for the install. Just glancing up under the car, it looked so easy.

YtseJammer

Ordered mine from www.energysuspensionparts.com for $113 shipped. They were really quick to ship my order, and because they're based in north tx I got my kit pretty much the next day.

97BlackAckCL

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ebay ftw

Anhedonia

has anybody not had any problems lowering there 1g?

lol

aside from the two people who answered no obviously.. so i guess im asking the 13 people that answered Whiskers lol

agranado

yea your bushings will die if you dont upgrade them after lowering the car. Thats a given

97BlackAckCL

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I dragged frame and cracked my radiator in half, that counts as a problem

97BlackAckCL

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Best price I've seen the master kit for, I paid $90 for mine

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-97...1%7C240%3A1318

They're going for $115-117 shipped on ebay

*BAY*CL

first thing that happened to me when i lowered my car was the bushings!! sucks hearing that squeaking sound. it was gone for about a year and now it's backanyone have an idea how much labor going to be to have them replaced? i'm going to take my car to the shop tomorrow but i'd like to get an idea before i take it in

97BlackAckCL

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I paid about $300 for the whole set to be installed

a2ndragoon89

dude i thought you sold it?

Tehvine

snagged

*BAY*CL

i have people looking at it over the weekend but i want to see if i can get that fixed before i show the car or else ima get a bunch of low ballers

a2ndragoon89

oooh i see, well goodluck with that man! i loved your car :|

SupraManAG

if you have the money then just take it to a mechanic to have them replaced. believe me no matter who mechanicaly sound you are there will be a few bushing which you will not be able to install without a lot of hard though and hard work.
between by coil and master bushing set took me over 11 hours. lol
100% worth it but it was a bitch

Myxomatosis

Nice! that price isn't bad at all.


The problem isn't that they seize, it's that Acura welds that nut on. Technically anyone that changes their springs or struts in the rear for the first time will have to grind it off. Both of my bolts also were stuck in the bushing as well, I cut out the bushings and put new ones in.

WineRed2.2CL

BlackAc your car is lowered? if so on what?

Thanks for the info.

I also have to replace the control arm. Correct me if im wrong but if i go with the Poly Bush Kit would i just have to replace the CT bushing?

If so i figure 100 plus around 300 labor is pretty good. Worth the money for sure. Just for one control arm alone it runs 150 oem all the way though.

Blazin Si

I know the nut is welded to the strut, but the bolt should still be able to be backed out. On the drivers side, the bolt was stuck inside the nut. I cut the nut off and the rest of the bolt was pushed through the bushing with an air chisel. I was able to keep the original bushing on this side. On the passengers side, the bolt was seized inside the nut. I cut it off and then found that the rest of the bolt was still stuck inside the bushing. I had to replace the bushing on this side.

I think most of these problems are found on cars in cold, snowy climates. My car spent most of it's life in Cincinnati, OH.

Palayah8ta

Ok so i've been lowered for 3 years now..

Messed up my:
Rear Upper control Arm (left side only)
Blew both Axles (more than once)
Both my wheel hubs need replacing which caused some really funky tire wear..

Oh and when i killed that kitten with my car, it messed up my car lot higher than it wouldve been if i was 4x4 hahahaha..

and if your car's lowered it makes EVERYTHING harder.... like finding jacks that fit, finding shops that want to work on your car, going through parking lots.. its a long term commitment.. lol