pits200

I know but the timeline that dealerships use(ex. 7yr 105k miles) is based on how rubber deteriorates over time due to the elements.

Im just saying that they base the estimate of when this job should be done off the belt wear when that probably is the least of the worries.

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iTrader: (2)

yea when i got my car at 81000kms/ 8 years i opted to get that done and have it behind me. boy am i glad i did too.

civicdrivr

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I wasnt trying to poke holes in your statement, just letting others know not to replace just the belt. A bad tensioner or waterpump can do some serious damage.

friesm2000

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you still get bent valves as you found out pits, when the other stuff lets go

o1s

imo the belt tensioner would probably fail before the timing belt does.

pits200

Unfortunately I do, but I almost could guarantee that if I didn't get the original timing belt replaced at 155k miles last year and just didn't bother touching it that I'd be better off today with the original everything. I know this isn't the typical case for everyone and it was just my situation so in no way am I suggesting people not to change their timing belt.

But a tensioner bolt sheering off can't be too high on the list of ways for a valve damage incident.

friesm2000

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except for when the bearing siezes onto the bolt and it snaps it , i've seen that one before

but yeah normally it is the bearings and such that fail first, but not always (hyuandia [sp?]), dealer did the t/belt at like 60k, but not the balancer shaft belt which then snapped/shreaded like 10k miles later and took out the t/belt, which still resulted in bent valves.
do not ask me why they did not upsell that additional $30-40 belt with like 10 minutes of additional labour (which should of been included in the origional estimate anyways), i just fixed it after that belt had broke

stlswagger

Actually I called and got specific with a parts list (found on this forum I cannot get enough of) and they just emailed me saying it would be $184 for labor to swap out the entire parts list that's required for the 105K service and offer a 1 year warranty on all work. So PNW guys...check out Greg's!

civicdrivr

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$184???? That cant be right....

o1s

what the hell is their hourly rate?

StreetKA

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my mechanic will do it for 200 bucks

pits200

For $184, I'd be getting my timing belt changed every 50k miles.. Like Civic said, that can't be right and if it is, I'd actually be worried about the quality of the job for that cheap of a price.

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i think he meant 184 for the labor and parts it extra... ? or no

OperationDarkie

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I was quoted by a dealer ship by my house for 868 for everything, including the valve adjustment, when I did the valve adjustment myself and had my cousin do the timing belt my car is completely different.

A good different that is seems like I have soo much more power at all rpms.

and now I can acutally break traction in first gear which surprised the shit out of me when it did happen.

fsttyms1

I had mine on till 200k (though i did that in 5-6 years). I wouldnt recommend it. I would be much more worried about AGE of the belt than miles. Age is a bigger killer of rubber than the miles. With yours being a 2001 i would look into having it done sooner than later.

civicdrivr

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Damn, how bad were your valves beforehand?

civicdrivr

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Plus climate and driving conditions.

StreetKA

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dont talk about a shit... upload the PICS !!

Rajca

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i heard his valves. they were ticking. u could hear them for 15feet away hood closed. mine were the same.

civicdrivr

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Damn. Mine were pretty loud too, not 15 feet away loud, but loud nonetheless and I still broke traction in first from a roll.

stlswagger

I thought so too which is why I called and confirmed but here's their email:

Dear Rob

Thank you for giving me an opportunity to give you an online estimate for your 2003 Acura CL.

The cost in labor to replace the supplied parts for the 105k service will run $184.00.

I can help with arrangements with enterprise for a car rental if needed. We can schedule and appointment for you anytime today or this week. We do have a courtesy shuttle service that can take you home or to work within 5 miles from our location. We be happy to pick you back up when we are complete.

Our Parts and labor warranty is one of the best 15 months 15,000 miles whichever occurs first. If you have any questions or would like to schedule the repair please give me a call or you can email me back.

Print this estimate and receive $20.00 off any service over $100.00


Rob Roy
Greg's Japanese Auto
Renton
425-271-7100

I will be ordering my parts next month and scheduling an appointment.

aznboi2424

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that cant be right. Valve adjustment is 2.7 hours book time alone. And if your replacing everything like I did, you'll be there from 9 to 5.

CLSspeedx

I'm at 109,500 and feel like I'm living on borrowed time. I have everything (less the crank and cam seals... I can't find the correct part number on delray acura's catalog!) Just waiting for sunny Florida to warm up :S

Glad to hear it makes a noticeable improvement... I'm planning on trying this myself too... after the T-Belt job.... I know its just what my CL needs. Far too much ticking, frustrating when at a drive through and I hear it!

pits200

All of you people who had loud valves prior and had adjustments, can you still hear the valves when you have the hood open?

How quiet did they get?

stlswagger

Have to supply your own parts. The $184 is for two hours in labor without tax. Still it's a great deal if you're in the PNW. Greg's is the only place I've ever taken Honda/Acura when I've owned them and I know a lot of people that do business with them as well.

Acura of Seattle gave me a price list on parts I'll need to buy.

"The 105k service for your car includes engine oil and filter change($23.80), new spark plugs($145.32), brake fluid flush($29.80) and air filter($32.55). We also do the timing belt service at 105k this includes t-belt($46.95), water pump($167.64), t-belt tensioner($132.66), p/s belt($22.96), a/c belt($22.55) and a gallon of coolant($21.95). We have all these parts in stock so you can just stop in any time and pick up what you need."

I'm sure I can get most of these items online cheaper so I'll shop around for a few weeks then buy everything and schedule with Greg's in a month or so.

civicdrivr

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Mine are silent now. The only thing I hear is that damn purge valve.

aznboi2424

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x2. Mine used to tick like a diesel at warm idle. Its a lot quieter now.

is that all your having done? not planning the complete 105k right? you cant even do a valve adjustment in 2 hours. I like to see how this plays out.

Let me know if you need those part numbers or want to check your list against mine.

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i cannot imagine my car not breaking traction in 1st...

Luv it..

fsttyms1

Timing belt should only be 1 to 1.5 hrs. Ive done it enough (while tring to get my 6 speed swap working) that i can do it in that time now.

CobraSpdRH

Funny how much the price varies, even between Acura dealerships. I know they have a book that lays out the hours for work, so that suprises me.

I am a 2003 w/ 61k miles and I am looking into this service in the next 6 months.

CLSspeedx

Thanks! Going to stop by the dealer on the way home. Probably not a bad idea to post 'em for people searching in the future... I'll post if I get any pertinent information.

stlswagger

[quote=is that all your having done? not planning the complete 105k right? you cant even do a valve adjustment in 2 hours. I like to see how this plays out..[/quote]

No it was strictly the parts list. Another member pointed out the valve adjustment. That wasn't listed in the sections I was reading on the main CL Discussion page. Even with that additionally, I should still be well under $800 between parts and labor. Greg's is a pretty respected shop and they have multiple locations in WA state. I've had other people go there and I've used them for past Honda's I've owned so I trust their work.

aznboi2424

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I did more then just swap the timing belt though.

Theres so much to post. Its basically a list from two of the threads in the FAQ

apolon21

I have an 01 cl auto trans....new trans in 04...I have 95,000 miles..Question: should I get the timing belt service yet??....everytrhing runs great,,,, any thoughts???

pits200

No reason to wait, if you just got the car that means you'll be keeping it for a couple years. Either way, you're going to have to change the timing belt once. Better to do it now than later. Whether you change it now at 95k or at 110k, your still only spending the money one time for one change unless you plan on keeping the car over 210k miles.

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iTrader: (2)

i'm keeping mine till the wheels fall off

pits200

Ha, you say that now, but give it 3 years. I still get a kick out of driving my CL on the highways. I also have a stock 08 TL and it can't hold a candle to the performance of my modded CL on the highways. Much too floaty. But on the other hand, the look and refinement of the TL is much better but that is just how cars are as time goes on.


But trust me, I'm itching for a new car but that says something about the CL that I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I'm as impulsive as they come when it comes to making purchases. It's just I haven't found anything that makes me want to have a $700 car payment vs $0 on my CL.

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iTrader: (2)

yea... owning the car is sooo nice. Knowing all uy need to pay for is gas and insurance.

I cannot imagine the day I have monthly payments on anything!!! including my house... when I get around to buying one

aznboi2424

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+1. I've had mine for over 3 years and still love the heck out of her!