headers?

drkbatman · 11-07-2009, 3:08 AM

other than compech headers, what will be good headers to put on my cl-s and what would the prices look like?

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aznboi2424 · 11-07-2009, 4:53 AM

XS headers but they are really hard to find unless you find a used set.

best is comptech, there are a few for sale in the BM right now.

StreetKA · 11-07-2009, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aznboi2424

XS headers but they are really hard to find unless you find a used set.

best is comptech, there are a few for sale in the BM right now.

hard to find ? its impossible to find new one... used one is also hard to find. comtepch is too expensive there is other way that u can make auto headers custom fit to 6 speed GL

Rajca · 11-07-2009, 10:05 AM

comptech and dc sports are top notch. xs, megan and ebay headers are garbage.

StreetKA · 11-07-2009, 10:31 AM

WHY XS are garbage ?

Rajca · 11-07-2009, 10:36 AM

search,
cracked welds, fitment problems, resonance. its a hit or miss header. most of them are misses

StreetKA · 11-07-2009, 10:42 AM

i did search there was some complaints but some was good as same as CT was

richardparker · 11-07-2009, 11:15 AM

What about obx ? I'm leaning towards grabing a set,since they are the cheapest 1 flex pipe headers.

aznboi2424 · 11-07-2009, 3:57 PM

I heard a lot of good things on this forum about XS headers. A lot of satisfied customers then complaining ones. Some do say it hisses from the felx pipe for thinner metal but for 100 bucks its not too bad.

DC headers are another good choice. They would be slotted between comptech and XS.

How much are the OBX headers?

richardparker · 11-07-2009, 4:46 PM

Obx's are like $260 or so.Then the dc's are next at about $400.Then the "supreme" comptech's are just crazy at $1100 new

StonedCL · 11-07-2009, 5:24 PM

I have a pair of OBX headers and they work fine!

richardparker · 11-07-2009, 5:27 PM

The polished one's or the coated one's ? How are they holding up looks/performance

StonedCL · 11-07-2009, 5:32 PM

polished they look nice still they bronzed nice I only had them on a year!

2Fast4you · 11-07-2009, 6:17 PM

I have xs headers and they are fine except the metal is to thin so it sounds like a turbo under acceleration

CL-S progression 01 · 11-07-2009, 7:13 PM

^^^ that may have to do with the sizing of the flex pipe. I heard they have cheepo flexs, so maybe it's that. just a thought.

FYI I bought OBX headers off ebay and they were obx headers but I didn't think they were good enough to go on my car. they were the ceramic ones, not stainless. and their ceramic is cheap... as in u touch it with anything hard and u got urself a nice scratch. My bro's DC ceramic headers are whole new level of ceramic headers. Inside where the welds met the metal (where the 3 go to 1 at the flange) was shaved down and not smooth at all. I was very displeased. But I was told that's how they all are. So since they weren't "quality" in my mind I was skeptical if they would even fit properly. So i waited and then out of NO WHERE popped up a memeber in my PM and had a set 30 mins away for a damn good price.

I stand behind comptech all the friggin way. Fitment is crazy accurate too.

OP you never said if you were auto or 6 speed (manuals have to have a bend in the back header to clear a mount). I will take it you are auto tho?

2Fast4you · 11-07-2009, 7:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CL-S progression 01

^^^ that may have to do with the sizing of the flex pipe. I heard they have cheepo flexs, so maybe it's that. just a thought.

FYI I bought OBX headers off ebay and they were obx headers but I didn't think they were good enough to go on my car. they were the ceramic ones, not stainless. and their ceramic is cheap... as in u touch it with anything hard and u got urself a nice scratch. My bro's DC ceramic headers are whole new level of ceramic headers. Inside where the welds met the metal (where the 3 go to 1 at the flange) was shaved down and not smooth at all. I was very displeased. But I was told that's how they all are. So since they weren't "quality" in my mind I was skeptical if they would even fit properly. So i waited and then out of NO WHERE popped up a memeber in my PM and had a set 30 mins away for a damn good price.

I stand behind comptech all the friggin way. Fitment is crazy accurate too.

OP you never said if you were auto or 6 speed (manuals have to have a bend in the back header to clear a mount). I will take it you are auto tho?

i wrapped the flex pipe in exhaust wrap....

CL-S progression 01 · 11-07-2009, 7:43 PM

lol k well then i doubt it's the reason why. You should wrap the entire header system and that will reduce ur noise for sure.

I have my comptechs completely wrapped. 120$ worth of wrap. took me almost 2 hrs to do it... just as long to install the headers LOL... whata joke. I did the wrap too minimize engine temps. And damn did it work!

I can go for a rippp park the car and have my finger between the front runner and the rad fan. which is less than 1 inch clearance...and leave my hand there... that's results

Car sounds soooo clean!!! I love IT...

can't wait to get the xlr8 highflow cat!!! to complete the sound of GLORY.

2Fast4you · 11-07-2009, 7:52 PM

dont want to wrap them cause that means they wont last as long

Rajca · 11-07-2009, 7:55 PM

^ follow the steps and do it right and it will last u a long time.

wrap them and seal them. if u get them hot coated or ceramic coated they will last a longer and keep the head down more than just wrapping them alone

richardparker · 11-07-2009, 7:55 PM

I didn't think header wrap was that much money, CL-S progression 01.Which kind did you buy?
I would definitly use some when the time comes.
Anyone here trying to dump some obx's ?

CL-S progression 01 · 11-07-2009, 8:57 PM

is in my signature, lol...... DEI wrap

dunno any other brands tho, I didn't think about it until i ran into it at the place I was looking at brakes for (where i chose DBA's, love them). it was a pure impulse buy (the header wrap).. but i had saved the cash on headers. all n all it cost me 600 install by myself, for the header system. Big thanks to the azine seller.

Do not rush the process, MAKE sure u got all the shyt u need, and reuse the header gaskets, and bolts (are really good), new ones are no better, I re-used mine and did everything by hand on my driveway, and took 2 hrs with the clean up and a beer break. And I didn't rush. The back header I put in from the bottom. you do this by inverting the header then once it's past the driveshaft up in where the old headers was, you simply turn it around slowly and gently, cause there are wires all up there and shyt.

Header install was so quick because I checked my cat bolts and header bolts to see if they were still good to go by hand and they were mint. AND i didn't remove anything to get anything in or out.

NOTE: for header wrap

I bought the can and sprayed it in 2 sessions, cause I did header 1st, then the j pipe second, the can was horribly clogged the 2nd time.... and i cleared it out b4 i stopped using it by holding it upside down and sparying till no shyt comes out. so i didn't coat them too much. So i would advise you either make sure that shyt is relatively newly made, cause i think mine was sitting there for a bit b4 i came along to buy it....cause header wrap is underrated, therefore not many people sell it. It is expensive but it's completely worth it.

I also would like to warn those with cheaper headers that do not have that thick of a construction to think about the fact they made indeed crack, and be a waste of time, money and the wrap.

So do at ur own risk. because I know a person that's had it happen to them.

richardparker · 11-07-2009, 9:10 PM

^Are you saying they cracked because of the header wrap ?

CL-S progression 01 · 11-07-2009, 9:17 PM

that's exactly what I am saying, if you have cheepo headers. I'm not talking about obx stainless, CT, DC, and a few others, that I haven't seen in person. If they crack,it's usually at the flanges due to poor welds or simply too thin metal (or just bad metal in general).

I did it and used a LOT of it. I used 50ft roll for the headers and 70-80ft of a 100ft on the j pipe. I didn't measure it lol.

richardparker · 11-07-2009, 9:23 PM

That's a bit much. You only have to half lap that stuff aren't you?

Rajca · 11-07-2009, 9:24 PM

the only header that is carb approved is comptech.
dc sport headers are great. right their with the comptechs BUT, are cheaper bc their not carb legal

obx, xs, megan, and those other ebay ones are a hit or miss header, most times misses, not carb approved nor fitment approved. i did headers on my tl (dc sports) it was a PITA to get the oem ones off and header on. not something im gonna do twice or pay someone twice bc i went cheap with headers

end of discussion

Rajca · 11-07-2009, 9:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardparker

That's a bit much. You only have to half lap that stuff aren't you?

1/4 lap, but most ppl do 1/2 lap. i half lapped my turbo manifold, now i need to seal it.

CL-S progression 01 · 11-07-2009, 9:32 PM

yea i went all out on the front header with the silicone spray especially, so it's good for the elements, and I left the CT badge exposed so u know they're the real macoy.

also beware the smell is CRAZY intense and they smoke for the first week of driving! lol and they smell for about .... 2-3 months

I shit u not

aznboi2424 · 11-08-2009, 1:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardparker

Obx's are like $260 or so.Then the dc's are next at about $400.Then the "supreme" comptech's are just crazy at $1100 new

just get used comptechs. The quality is great even for used. They should be about the same price as new DCs.

CL-S progression 01 · 11-08-2009, 8:30 AM

yea my comptechs were used a LOT for sure... and they were still mint. Just not chrome anymore. and they are wrapped now so it really doesn't matter if they are used. Ur just getting a better deal in my mind if u find them used.

dfv3.2CL-S · 11-09-2009, 12:08 PM

just get the Comptech Headers nothing nicer than getting b/w 25-30HP to the wheels

civicdrivr · 11-09-2009, 2:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfv3.2CL-S

just get the Comptech Headers nothing nicer than getting b/w 25-30HP to the wheels

All headers give you ~20whp. Its just a difference in quality. Im running XS headers and theyve been on my car for over a year now. The flex pipe rattles a bit, but other then that, they work as advertised. They are the best $120 I spent on the car.

11-07-2009, 10:05 AM	#4
Rajca CL-S6 on steroids Trader Rating: (3) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: harwood hts, il/ chicago Age: 20 Posts: 7,740	comptech and dc sports are top notch. xs, megan and ebay headers are garbage. __________________ 02 SSM TL-S:: When ever driver, gots a sound system 03 SMR CL-S6::track car:: way too many parts to list, most of them custom

11-07-2009, 10:31 AM	#5
StreetKA .../\/\/\/\... 2003 Acura CL Trader Rating: (2) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Age: 22 Posts: 784	WHY XS are garbage ? __________________ Injen Comptech Tein Tokico Alpine R&J ValentineOne

11-07-2009, 10:36 AM	#6
Rajca CL-S6 on steroids Trader Rating: (3) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: harwood hts, il/ chicago Age: 20 Posts: 7,740	search, cracked welds, fitment problems, resonance. its a hit or miss header. most of them are misses __________________ 02 SSM TL-S:: When ever driver, gots a sound system 03 SMR CL-S6::track car:: way too many parts to list, most of them custom

11-07-2009, 10:42 AM	#7
StreetKA .../\/\/\/\... 2003 Acura CL Trader Rating: (2) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Age: 22 Posts: 784	i did search there was some complaints but some was good as same as CT was __________________ Injen Comptech Tein Tokico Alpine R&J ValentineOne

11-07-2009, 5:24 PM	#11
StonedCL Registered User Trader Rating: (1) Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wallington NJ , Just bought first condo in Riverdale NJ Moving in July 30th! Posts: 3,934	I have OBX and they are fine. I have a pair of OBX headers and they work fine! __________________ 2001 Acura CL Type-S ... R.I.P. Tranny 1 at 35K miles R.I.P. Tranny 2 at 99K miles R.I.P. Tranny 3 at 168K miles Do not buy a 5 speed acura/honda tranny built before 2006!

11-07-2009, 4:53 AM	#2
aznboi2424 Airbag Logo Mod In My 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (4) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 20 Posts: 4,437	XS headers but they are really hard to find unless you find a used set. best is comptech, there are a few for sale in the BM right now.

11-07-2009, 11:15 AM	#8
richardparker Registered User 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,004	What about obx ? I'm leaning towards grabing a set,since they are the cheapest 1 flex pipe headers.

11-07-2009, 3:57 PM	#9
aznboi2424 Airbag Logo Mod In My 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (4) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 20 Posts: 4,437	I heard a lot of good things on this forum about XS headers. A lot of satisfied customers then complaining ones. Some do say it hisses from the felx pipe for thinner metal but for 100 bucks its not too bad. DC headers are another good choice. They would be slotted between comptech and XS. How much are the OBX headers?

11-07-2009, 4:46 PM	#10
richardparker Registered User 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,004	Obx's are like $260 or so.Then the dc's are next at about $400.Then the "supreme" comptech's are just crazy at $1100 new

11-07-2009, 5:27 PM	#12
richardparker Registered User 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,004	The polished one's or the coated one's ? How are they holding up looks/performance

11-07-2009, 5:32 PM	#13
StonedCL Registered User Trader Rating: (1) Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wallington NJ , Just bought first condo in Riverdale NJ Moving in July 30th! Posts: 3,934	polished they look nice still they bronzed nice I only had them on a year! __________________ 2001 Acura CL Type-S ... R.I.P. Tranny 1 at 35K miles R.I.P. Tranny 2 at 99K miles R.I.P. Tranny 3 at 168K miles Do not buy a 5 speed acura/honda tranny built before 2006!

11-07-2009, 6:17 PM	#14
2Fast4you Registered User 2003 Acura CL My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NorthCarolina Posts: 881	I have xs headers and they are fine except the metal is to thin so it sounds like a turbo under acceleration

11-07-2009, 7:13 PM	#15
CL-S progression 01 done modding, for this yr 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mississauga Age: 22 Posts: 1,140	^^^ that may have to do with the sizing of the flex pipe. I heard they have cheepo flexs, so maybe it's that. just a thought. FYI I bought OBX headers off ebay and they were obx headers but I didn't think they were good enough to go on my car. they were the ceramic ones, not stainless. and their ceramic is cheap... as in u touch it with anything hard and u got urself a nice scratch. My bro's DC ceramic headers are whole new level of ceramic headers. Inside where the welds met the metal (where the 3 go to 1 at the flange) was shaved down and not smooth at all. I was very displeased. But I was told that's how they all are. So since they weren't "quality" in my mind I was skeptical if they would even fit properly. So i waited and then out of NO WHERE popped up a memeber in my PM and had a set 30 mins away for a damn good price. I stand behind comptech all the friggin way. Fitment is crazy accurate too. OP you never said if you were auto or 6 speed (manuals have to have a bend in the back header to clear a mount). I will take it you are auto tho? __________________ Injen CAI, Option Pulley, P2R tb spacer/Plenums/thermo gaskets (3), Comptech USA headers, DEI header wrap, Progress RSB, Moog end links, CR Rims, Tranny #2, grille, DBA fr, EBC rr

11-07-2009, 7:43 PM	#17
CL-S progression 01 done modding, for this yr 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mississauga Age: 22 Posts: 1,140	lol k well then i doubt it's the reason why. You should wrap the entire header system and that will reduce ur noise for sure. I have my comptechs completely wrapped. 120$ worth of wrap. took me almost 2 hrs to do it... just as long to install the headers LOL... whata joke. I did the wrap too minimize engine temps. And damn did it work! I can go for a rippp park the car and have my finger between the front runner and the rad fan. which is less than 1 inch clearance...and leave my hand there... that's results Car sounds soooo clean!!! I love IT... can't wait to get the xlr8 highflow cat!!! to complete the sound of GLORY. __________________ Injen CAI, Option Pulley, P2R tb spacer/Plenums/thermo gaskets (3), Comptech USA headers, DEI header wrap, Progress RSB, Moog end links, CR Rims, Tranny #2, grille, DBA fr, EBC rr Last edited by CL-S progression 01; 11-07-2009 at 7:46 PM.

11-07-2009, 7:52 PM	#18
2Fast4you Registered User 2003 Acura CL My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NorthCarolina Posts: 881	dont want to wrap them cause that means they wont last as long

11-07-2009, 7:55 PM	#19
Rajca CL-S6 on steroids Trader Rating: (3) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: harwood hts, il/ chicago Age: 20 Posts: 7,740	^ follow the steps and do it right and it will last u a long time. wrap them and seal them. if u get them hot coated or ceramic coated they will last a longer and keep the head down more than just wrapping them alone __________________ 02 SSM TL-S:: When ever driver, gots a sound system 03 SMR CL-S6::track car:: way too many parts to list, most of them custom

11-07-2009, 8:57 PM	#21
CL-S progression 01 done modding, for this yr 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mississauga Age: 22 Posts: 1,140	is in my signature, lol...... DEI wrap dunno any other brands tho, I didn't think about it until i ran into it at the place I was looking at brakes for (where i chose DBA's, love them). it was a pure impulse buy (the header wrap).. but i had saved the cash on headers. all n all it cost me 600 install by myself, for the header system. Big thanks to the azine seller. Do not rush the process, MAKE sure u got all the shyt u need, and reuse the header gaskets, and bolts (are really good), new ones are no better, I re-used mine and did everything by hand on my driveway, and took 2 hrs with the clean up and a beer break. And I didn't rush. The back header I put in from the bottom. you do this by inverting the header then once it's past the driveshaft up in where the old headers was, you simply turn it around slowly and gently, cause there are wires all up there and shyt. Header install was so quick because I checked my cat bolts and header bolts to see if they were still good to go by hand and they were mint. AND i didn't remove anything to get anything in or out. NOTE: for header wrap I bought the can and sprayed it in 2 sessions, cause I did header 1st, then the j pipe second, the can was horribly clogged the 2nd time.... and i cleared it out b4 i stopped using it by holding it upside down and sparying till no shyt comes out. so i didn't coat them too much. So i would advise you either make sure that shyt is relatively newly made, cause i think mine was sitting there for a bit b4 i came along to buy it....cause header wrap is underrated, therefore not many people sell it. It is expensive but it's completely worth it. I also would like to warn those with cheaper headers that do not have that thick of a construction to think about the fact they made indeed crack, and be a waste of time, money and the wrap. So do at ur own risk. because I know a person that's had it happen to them. __________________ Injen CAI, Option Pulley, P2R tb spacer/Plenums/thermo gaskets (3), Comptech USA headers, DEI header wrap, Progress RSB, Moog end links, CR Rims, Tranny #2, grille, DBA fr, EBC rr

11-07-2009, 9:10 PM	#22
richardparker Registered User 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,004	^Are you saying they cracked because of the header wrap ?

11-07-2009, 9:17 PM	#23
CL-S progression 01 done modding, for this yr 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mississauga Age: 22 Posts: 1,140	that's exactly what I am saying, if you have cheepo headers. I'm not talking about obx stainless, CT, DC, and a few others, that I haven't seen in person. If they crack,it's usually at the flanges due to poor welds or simply too thin metal (or just bad metal in general). I did it and used a LOT of it. I used 50ft roll for the headers and 70-80ft of a 100ft on the j pipe. I didn't measure it lol. __________________ Injen CAI, Option Pulley, P2R tb spacer/Plenums/thermo gaskets (3), Comptech USA headers, DEI header wrap, Progress RSB, Moog end links, CR Rims, Tranny #2, grille, DBA fr, EBC rr

11-07-2009, 9:23 PM	#24
richardparker Registered User 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,004	That's a bit much. You only have to half lap that stuff aren't you?

11-07-2009, 9:24 PM	#25
Rajca CL-S6 on steroids Trader Rating: (3) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: harwood hts, il/ chicago Age: 20 Posts: 7,740	the only header that is carb approved is comptech. dc sport headers are great. right their with the comptechs BUT, are cheaper bc their not carb legal obx, xs, megan, and those other ebay ones are a hit or miss header, most times misses, not carb approved nor fitment approved. i did headers on my tl (dc sports) it was a PITA to get the oem ones off and header on. not something im gonna do twice or pay someone twice bc i went cheap with headers end of discussion __________________ 02 SSM TL-S:: When ever driver, gots a sound system 03 SMR CL-S6::track car:: way too many parts to list, most of them custom

11-07-2009, 9:32 PM	#27
CL-S progression 01 done modding, for this yr 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mississauga Age: 22 Posts: 1,140	yea i went all out on the front header with the silicone spray especially, so it's good for the elements, and I left the CT badge exposed so u know they're the real macoy. also beware the smell is CRAZY intense and they smoke for the first week of driving! lol and they smell for about .... 2-3 months I shit u not __________________ Injen CAI, Option Pulley, P2R tb spacer/Plenums/thermo gaskets (3), Comptech USA headers, DEI header wrap, Progress RSB, Moog end links, CR Rims, Tranny #2, grille, DBA fr, EBC rr

11-08-2009, 8:30 AM	#29
CL-S progression 01 done modding, for this yr 2001 Acura CL Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mississauga Age: 22 Posts: 1,140	yea my comptechs were used a LOT for sure... and they were still mint. Just not chrome anymore. and they are wrapped now so it really doesn't matter if they are used. Ur just getting a better deal in my mind if u find them used. __________________ Injen CAI, Option Pulley, P2R tb spacer/Plenums/thermo gaskets (3), Comptech USA headers, DEI header wrap, Progress RSB, Moog end links, CR Rims, Tranny #2, grille, DBA fr, EBC rr

11-09-2009, 12:08 PM	#30
dfv3.2CL-S Registered User Trader Rating: (1) Join Date: May 2001 Location: Dallas area Posts: 884	just get the Comptech Headers nothing nicer than getting b/w 25-30HP to the wheels __________________ 2003 CL-S 6 speed, T.White, Lumar Mirror Tint 25% all around, OEM Spoiler, Fenderwell Trim, Mud Guards, CT S-charged w/CT CAI, CT swaybars, CT Headers, CT Springs, Tokico HP Blue, Kuhmo ASX 235/45/17 Neuspeed Strutbrace, JL Audio subs enjoy the flight!