New engine for my 07 base
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New engine for my 07 base
Was just wondering what engines I can slap into my base 07, would the type-s 3.5 work with my 5AT transmission? Read on some places that its a direct bolt on. Just confirming on here.
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DC
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DC
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here they talk about the swap, again i have the 07 base model
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...ase-tl-986626/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...ase-tl-986626/
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https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2...ase-tl-990351/
I'd say you should be safe to do so! Please document your journey and reply back here with an update! Good luck
I'd say you should be safe to do so! Please document your journey and reply back here with an update! Good luck
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RE: ttps://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...ase-tl-986626/
That thread discusses dropping in a 3.7 (and I agree with 'shoez) and you're talking a 3.5.
Why do you want to 'slap in' a different motor?
That thread discusses dropping in a 3.7 (and I agree with 'shoez) and you're talking a 3.5.
Why do you want to 'slap in' a different motor?
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RE: ttps://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...ase-tl-986626/
That thread discusses dropping in a 3.7 (and I agree with 'shoez) and you're talking a 3.5.
Why do you want to 'slap in' a different motor?
That thread discusses dropping in a 3.7 (and I agree with 'shoez) and you're talking a 3.5.
Why do you want to 'slap in' a different motor?
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A few months ago I bought a used 3.5 engine for my 2007 TL Type S with 53,000 miles for $1,900 from JDM Engine Depot, Belleville, NJ. It runs great with no issues at all.
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Is the shipping cost built into the initial $1,999 price for the engine?
I see you reside in NJ, so you probably picked it up?
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Yup, Paul the Acura whiz picked it up. I'm sure they can ship it to you, just call and get a shipping quote. Or if you have a pick up truck drive up from FL, it'll fit.
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Since Paul picked it up & you payed $1900 + tax, shipping would be an additional cost to the consumer.
I thought so; however, with these places it can get a little sketchy when it comes to details.
Was the 'mileage claim' the most appealing aspect for you in picking a place like this versus a salvage yard?
Obviously, their location being in NJ was convenient as well.
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Well it was a combination of their reputation too. I was impressed to see hundreds of engines and transmissions. I didn't want to go to a typical salvage yard in fear of getting ripped off. They had several 3.5 engines for the TL to choose from. Paul was a huge help too. Quite honestly I was hesitant because I thought of a used engine not running right or something not working, AC, heat etc. Paul did an amazing job.
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placing a 3.5 into an 07/08 Base TL would be easier than a 2004/5 TL because of some systems that exist on a 2007 doesnt exist on a 2004/5. They also modified the pinout on the ALDL between 04/05 to 07/08, but in your case, installing 2007/8 3.5 into a 2007 Base, may not have any changes in the ALDL. So I think you are better off than a 2004-06. But if I were you I would get some Service manuals for your base TL and see how much of the TypeS is included and compare and look for variances..
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Teh CL's... $500 6spd TL - AcuraZine - Acura Enthusiast Community
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I do not have odessy pinouts.. So I would not know how that car is wired out. But regarding the swap, I am only referring to electronics and not physical attributes. Helm books dont have physical stuff.. Also, Gullyguy did a 3.5 into a 3.2 TL. He got a error code of U0073, which is a FCAN failure or "off line". I think that is because of some pinout differences. How many locations have different pinouts, I do not know. And I will never know. haha
The '...J35A6 out of the 05+ Odyssey (LX/EX only) is literally a direct drop in', per the OP in the thread below, for the 04-06 TL's with a J32A3.
Teh CL's... $500 6spd TL - AcuraZine - Acura Enthusiast Community
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I do not have odessy pinouts.. So I would not know how that car is wired out. But regarding the swap, I am only referring to electronics and not physical attributes. Helm books dont have physical stuff.. Also, Gullyguy did a 3.5 into a 3.2 TL. He got a error code of U0073, which is a FCAN failure or "off line". I think that is because of some pinout differences. How many locations have different pinouts, I do not know. And I will never know. haha
He (Gullyguy) also replaced a lot of components, any that involve electrical connection could of either been damaged before he acquired them or damaged as a result of his 'swap' efforts, possibly causing his code.
Unfortunately, he never came back to explain / update his ultimate findings and instead 'gave up the ghost' in trying to rectify the U0073 dilemma with an eventual car sale, oh well.
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well the last time I checked, I told Gullyguy the ALDL or Diagnostic link has different Pins for the FCAN.. This is comparing his car to the 07/08 TL. (I do not remember what year his car is) And my Helm book "mostly" covers 04 and 05 and it skips 06. But in cases it does show an 06. But I have no idea what he has. BUT ANYWAY.. I told him his Pinout is different. This was along time ago. Maybe then I knew what model his car was.
So, that is important.. Because lets say you enter 07 TL into the Hand held diag machine, and the machine is looking for the FCAN on Pin 3 and 4 (example only) then it will not find the FcAN there if you have an 04 or 05 and maybe 06 too... I dont know.. And the reverse problem could be that if you tell the hand held diag machine that you have an 04 or 05, it may connect and find the fcan, but then the ECM is different.. because they installed the 07/08 ecm... So in that case, will the hand held unit talk to the ecm? I dont know. Either way, I would think you need to have the 07/08 ECM installed as well as the proper wiring for it. I think Gullyguy said he was going to just get another harness. But I think there is a lot more than just the engine harness to replace IF IF the ALDL pinout is different. because then you would have to install a new ALDL harness..
The other option is to get 2 helms books and start comparing FCAN connections. but I would at least start with the ALDL. When I told that to Gullyguy, he had his own ideas on how to fix it. He wanted to hire a mechanic to troublehsoot it. I told him no mechanic will be able to troubleshoot it properly if you have wires reversed. Like mechanics are not retrofitters. They usually troubleshoot a system based on manufacturer specs and it assumes no one is moving wires around. I am not sure how someone could troubleshoot something if the wires are going to the wrong places. haha thats stupid. But in the case of "FCAN offline" it might be simply that the hand held unit is not finding the FCAN... Such as the pinout is different on the ALDL. I have already looked it up and I remember the FCAN pins being in different positions. Now if that is what is causing the "offline", I would say there is a strong possiblity that could be it.. And I told that to gully, but NO LISTEN.. haha So whatever,.. its your car, do what you want.
So, that is important.. Because lets say you enter 07 TL into the Hand held diag machine, and the machine is looking for the FCAN on Pin 3 and 4 (example only) then it will not find the FcAN there if you have an 04 or 05 and maybe 06 too... I dont know.. And the reverse problem could be that if you tell the hand held diag machine that you have an 04 or 05, it may connect and find the fcan, but then the ECM is different.. because they installed the 07/08 ecm... So in that case, will the hand held unit talk to the ecm? I dont know. Either way, I would think you need to have the 07/08 ECM installed as well as the proper wiring for it. I think Gullyguy said he was going to just get another harness. But I think there is a lot more than just the engine harness to replace IF IF the ALDL pinout is different. because then you would have to install a new ALDL harness..
The other option is to get 2 helms books and start comparing FCAN connections. but I would at least start with the ALDL. When I told that to Gullyguy, he had his own ideas on how to fix it. He wanted to hire a mechanic to troublehsoot it. I told him no mechanic will be able to troubleshoot it properly if you have wires reversed. Like mechanics are not retrofitters. They usually troubleshoot a system based on manufacturer specs and it assumes no one is moving wires around. I am not sure how someone could troubleshoot something if the wires are going to the wrong places. haha thats stupid. But in the case of "FCAN offline" it might be simply that the hand held unit is not finding the FCAN... Such as the pinout is different on the ALDL. I have already looked it up and I remember the FCAN pins being in different positions. Now if that is what is causing the "offline", I would say there is a strong possiblity that could be it.. And I told that to gully, but NO LISTEN.. haha So whatever,.. its your car, do what you want.
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